RP6 motor

**Marian Otte** · 14.12.2012, 15:30

Hallo,

wenn ich jetzt meinen Roboter anschalte fängt der rechte Motor sofort auf voller Geschwindigkeit an zu laufen.
Es ist aber noch kein Programm gestartet.
Was soll ich machen?

**SlyD** · 14.12.2012, 16:52

Hallo,

wie immer (bei allem): Bitte viel(!) mehr Infos posten.
Sonst muss ich erst meine Kristallkugel befragen, aber die ist nicht gerade zuverlässig

- Was genau(!) wurde als letztes mit dem Roboter gemacht, wurde etwas an der Hardware modifiziert usw.?
- Was sonst irgendwas am Roboter modifiziert?
- Wurden dabei immer die Sicherheitshinweise die in der Anleitung angegeben sind beachtet?
(ESD Schutz!!!)
- Kontrolliere ALLE Kabel und Steckverbinder die vom Roboter ins Chassis führen. Irgendwo eine Beschädigung
zu erkennen? Nichts irgendwo eingeklemmt o.ä.?
- Sind im Bereich der MOSFETs auf der Platine Beschädigungen zu erkennen oder z.B. Lötzinnspritzer / Metallreste draufgeflogen?
- Rückseite der Platine auch kontrollieren!
- Wie verhalten sich die LEDs direkt nach dem Einschalten?
- Was passiert wenn der Start/Stop Reset taster gedrückt wird?
- Ändert sich das Verhalten wenn das USB Interface angeschlossen / nicht angeschlossen wurde und ggf. im RobotLoader "hold in reset" aktiviert wird?
- Kann denn ein neues Programm in den Roboter geladen werden? (hold in reset vorher wieder deaktivieren)
- Falls ja, Ausgabe des Motortests hier posten.

MfG,
SlyD

**Marian Otte** · 14.12.2012, 16:59

also

wir haben fotowiederstände angeschlossen und leds aber es lief alles wunderbar
alles kabel und stecker sind ok keine Beschädigung
Mosfets ok nichts zu erkennen lötspritzer wurden entfernt
Rückseite alles ok
LED verhalten sich normal nach dem einschalten
wenn der start stop taster gedrückt wird startet der roboter das eingespreicherte programm
verhalten ändert sich mit Roboter interface nicht
was ist ein motortest?

danke marian otte

**SlyD** · 14.12.2012, 17:41

lötspritzer wurden entfernt

d.H. es waren mal welche vorhanden? Wo genau und wurde der Roboter
angeschaltet als die noch vorhanden waren?
Kurzschlüsse egal wo auf der Platine können die Elektronik natürlich beschädigen!

Ich meine übrigens nicht Flussmittel (das braun/durchsichtige Zeug) - sondern Lot (=silbrige Farbe) das weggespritzt ist.

was ist ein motortest?

Anleitung hast Du wohl nicht gelesen?

Es gibt ein umfangreiches Diagnoseprogramm für den RP6!
(Auch Selbsttest bzw. "Selftest" genannt)

Zieh den betroffenen Motor erstmal ab (Stecker auf unterseite des Mainboards)
und lade das Programm in den Roboter.

Dann im Menü Test "c" Encoder Duty Cycle test auswählen.
Dort eintippen:
50 + Enter
0 + Enter
bwd + Enter
50 + Enter
0 + Enter
fwd + Enter
x + Enter

Alles jeweils mit zwei drei Sekunden Pause dazwischen!
(+ Enter heisst Enter drücken)

Dann noch kurz Test 8 laufen lassen, da der Motor abgezogen ist, wird
der fehlschlagen.

Ausgabe kopieren (Doppelklick ins Terminal Fenster, ziehen/markieren, STRG+C, STRG+V)
oder Terminalinhalt per Menü speichern.

Das dient dazu die Stromaufnahme ohne Motor zu ermitteln.
So, dann Roboter abschalten, Motor wieder dran und das oben gleich nochmal exakt
so wiederholen und wieder Ergebnisse kopieren bzw. per Menü im RobotLoader speichern und
dann hier anhängen.

MfG,
SlyD

**Marian Otte** · 14.12.2012, 18:55

RobotLoader Serial Terminal - type ".help" for command list!

[RP6BOOT]

[READY]

RP6 Robot Base Selftest

ATTENTION: FACTORY VERSION!
You need to use a laboratory Power supply set to 7.20V!

################################################## ###################
### ATTENTION!!! DANGER!!! WARNING!!!
Make sure that the RP6 CAN __NOT__ MOVE!
The caterpillar tracks should NOT touch the ground!
(hold it in your hands for example...)
THE RP6 WILL START MOVING IN TEST 8! YOU CAN DAMAGE IT IF YOU DO NOT
MAKE SURE THAT IT CAN __NOT__ MOVE!
Make sure both crawler tracks are FREE RUNNING! DO NOT BLOCK THEM!
################################################## ###################

Please enter "x" and hit Enter to continue!
Hint: This program requires a newline character ("\n") at the end of
all input lines!

[RP6BOOT]

[READY]

[RP6BOOT]

[READY]

# x

RP6 Robot Base Selftest

ATTENTION: FACTORY VERSION!
You need to use a laboratory Power supply set to 7.20V!

################################################## ###################
### ATTENTION!!! DANGER!!! WARNING!!!
Make sure that the RP6 CAN __NOT__ MOVE!
The caterpillar tracks should NOT touch the ground!
(hold it in your hands for example...)
THE RP6 WILL START MOVING IN TEST 8! YOU CAN DAMAGE IT IF YOU DO NOT
MAKE SURE THAT IT CAN __NOT__ MOVE!
Make sure both crawler tracks are FREE RUNNING! DO NOT BLOCK THEM!
################################################## ###################

Please enter "x" and hit Enter to continue!
Hint: This program requires a newline character ("\n") at the end of
all input lines!

# x

################################################## ###################
######### RP6 Robot Base Selftest #########
######### FACTORY VERSION (!! 7.2V !!) v. 1.5 - 25.07.2012 #########
################################################## ###################
##### Main Menu ######### Advanced Menu #####
# # #
# 0 - Run ALL Selftests (0-

# s - Move at speed Test #
# 1 - PowerOn Test # d - Move distance Test #
# 2 - LED Test # c - Encoder Duty-Cycle Test #
# 3 - Voltage Sensor Test # #
# 4 - Bumper Test # #
# 5 - Light Sensor Test # #
# 6 - ACS (and RC5 receive) Test # #
# 7 - IRCOMM/RC5 Test # System voltage is: #
# 8 - Motors and Encoders Test # 06.53V #
# # #
################################################## ###################
# Please enter your choice (1-8, s, d, c)! #
################################################## ###################

[RP6BOOT]

[READY]

# 50
# 8
# 8,c
# x

RP6 Robot Base Selftest

ATTENTION: FACTORY VERSION!
You need to use a laboratory Power supply set to 7.20V!

################################################## ###################
### ATTENTION!!! DANGER!!! WARNING!!!
Make sure that the RP6 CAN __NOT__ MOVE!
The caterpillar tracks should NOT touch the ground!
(hold it in your hands for example...)
THE RP6 WILL START MOVING IN TEST 8! YOU CAN DAMAGE IT IF YOU DO NOT
MAKE SURE THAT IT CAN __NOT__ MOVE!
Make sure both crawler tracks are FREE RUNNING! DO NOT BLOCK THEM!
################################################## ###################

Please enter "x" and hit Enter to continue!
Hint: This program requires a newline character ("\n") at the end of
all input lines!

# x

################################################## ###################
######### RP6 Robot Base Selftest #########
######### FACTORY VERSION (!! 7.2V !!) v. 1.5 - 25.07.2012 #########
################################################## ###################
##### Main Menu ######### Advanced Menu #####
# # #
# 0 - Run ALL Selftests (0-

# s - Move at speed Test #
# 1 - PowerOn Test # d - Move distance Test #
# 2 - LED Test # c - Encoder Duty-Cycle Test #
# 3 - Voltage Sensor Test # #
# 4 - Bumper Test # #
# 5 - Light Sensor Test # #
# 6 - ACS (and RC5 receive) Test # #
# 7 - IRCOMM/RC5 Test # System voltage is: #
# 8 - Motors and Encoders Test # 05.73V #
# # #
################################################## ###################
# Please enter your choice (1-8, s, d, c)! #
################################################## ###################

# c

################################################## ###################
################################################## ###################

Encoder Duty Cycle test

################################################## ###################
### ATTENTION!!! DANGER!!! WARNING!!!
Make sure that the RP6 can __NOT__ move!
The caterpillar tracks should __NOT__ touch the ground!
(hold it in your hands for example...)
THE RP6 CAN START MOVING VERY FAST! YOU CAN DAMAGE IT IF YOU DO NOT
MAKE SURE THAT IT CAN __NOT__ MOVE!
################################################## ###################

Speed regulation is disabled - the motors get constant Power!
This allows you to adjust the small potis on the Encoders
to set the duty cycle properly.Optimal is a a duty cycle
of 50% - check this with the waveform displays in the RP6Loader Software.
On/Off time of the signal should be as equal as possible.

Usage: Enter PWM values like:
0, 25, 94, 100, 120 (LIMITED MAXIMUM!!!) and hit Enter!
Enter "end" or "x" and hit return when you want to stop the test!
Enter "fwd", "bwd", "l" or "r" to change motor turning direction!
The test is running already, you can Enter PWM values now!

# 100

--> Change speed to:100
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P: 100 |VL: 000 |VR: 213 |IL: 002 |IR: 114 |DCL: -1:-1 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.71V
SPEED LEFT IS TOO LOW!!!!
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P: 100 |VL: 000 |VR: 213 |IL: 016 |IR: 091 |DCL: -1:-1 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.71V
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P: 100 |VL: 005 |VR: 221 |IL: 016 |IR: 091 |DCL: -1:-1 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.71V
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P: 100 |VL: 033 |VR: 218 |IL: 016 |IR: 091 |DCL: 67:32 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.71V
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P: 100 |VL: 066 |VR: 209 |IL: 016 |IR: 091 |DCL: 49:50 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.71V
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P: 100 |VL: 067 |VR: 213 |IL: 016 |IR: 091 |DCL: 49:50 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.71V
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P: 100 |VL: 069 |VR: 216 |IL: 016 |IR: 091 |DCL: 48:51 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.63V
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P: 100 |VL: 070 |VR: 207 |IL: 073 |IR: 107 |DCL: 48:51 |DCR: 57:42 |UB: 05.63V
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P: 100 |VL: 074 |VR: 214 |IL: 073 |IR: 107 |DCL: 49:50 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.62V
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P: 100 |VL: 077 |VR: 222 |IL: 062 |IR: 107 |DCL: 50:50 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.62V
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P: 100 |VL: 076 |VR: 215 |IL: 062 |IR: 080 |DCL: 49:50 |DCR: 57:42 |UB: 05.62V
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<%(17,51,0,1,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500, 1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10, 0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,13,500,1,0,9,0,1,500, 11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500 ,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0 ,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 073 |VR: 212 |IL: 062 |IR: 080 |DCL: 50:50 |DCR: 57:42 |UB: 05.62V
<%(16,51,0,1,0,1,500,34,500,1,0,28,0,1,500,31,500, 1,0,30,0,1,500,32,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,33 ,0,1,500,27,500,1,0,33,0,1,500,27,500,1,0,33,0,1,5 00,30,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,33,500,1,0,31,0,1,500,32, 500,1,0,29,0,1,500,34,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,34,500,1, 0,34,0,1,500,35,500,1,0,34,0,1,500,34,x)%>
<%(17,51,0,1,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1 ,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1 ,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11 ,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,8,0,1,500,12,500,1,0 ,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1, 500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 068 |VR: 216 |IL: 062 |IR: 080 |DCL: 50:50 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.62V
<00,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500,1,0 ,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,8,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,5 00,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,50 0,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 074 |VR: 212 |IL: 085 |IR: 083 |DCL: 49:50 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.59V
<%(16,51,0,1,0,1,500,27,500,1,0,31,0,1,500,26,500, 1,0,31,0,1,500,26,500,1,0,30,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,30 ,0,1,500,30,500,1,0,30,0,1,500,30,500,1,0,28,0,1,5 00,31,500,1,0,30,0,1,500,32,500,1,0,31,0,1,500,32, 500,1,0,32,0,1,500,31,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,29,500,1, 0,33,0,1,500,30,500,1,0,33,0,1,500,31,x)%>
<%(17,51,0,1,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500, 1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0 ,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,1 2,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500,1 ,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0, 1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 076 |VR: 211 |IL: 085 |IR: 083 |DCL: 49:50 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.59V
<%(16,51,0,1,0,1,500,26,500,1,0,31,0,1,500,25,500, 1,0,30,0,1,500,26,500,1,0,29,0,1,500,27,500,1,0,28 ,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,28,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,27,0,1,5 00,31,500,1,0,29,0,1,500,31,500,1,0,30,0,1,500,30, 500,1,0,30,0,1,500,30,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,29,500,1, 0,33,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,28,x)%>
<%(17,51,0,1,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500, 1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0, 1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500, 11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500 ,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0 ,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 076 |VR: 214 |IL: 085 |IR: 083 |DCL: 48:51 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.59V
<%(16,51,0,1,0,1,500,25,500,1,0,30,0,1,500,24,500, 1,0,29,0,1,500,26,500,1,0,28,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,29 ,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,28,0,1,500,30,500,1,0,29,0,1,5 00,30,500,1,0,30,0,1,500,31,500,1,0,30,0,1,500,32, 500,1,0,31,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,28,500,1, 0,31,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,31,0,1,500,28,x)%>
<%(17,51,0,1,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1 ,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,8,0,1 ,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11 ,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0 ,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,5 00,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 077 |VR: 214 |IL: 085 |IR: 083 |DCL: 48:51 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.59V
<%(16,51,0,1,0,1,500,26,500,1,0,30,0,1,500,26,500, 1,0,30,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,30,0,1,500,30,500,1,0,30 ,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,28,0,1,500,31,500,1,0,30,0,1,5 00,32,500,1,0,31,0,1,500,32,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,31, 500,1,0,32,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,33,0,1,500,30,500,1, 0,33,0,1,500,31,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,29,x)%>

# 0
<%(17,51,0,1,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,8,0,1,500,12,500,1 ,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0, 1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12 ,500,1,0,8,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0 ,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,8,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,5 00,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 075 |VR: 220 |IL: 085 |IR: 083 |DCL: 49:50 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.59V
<%(16,51,0,1,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,34,0,1,500,28,500, 1,0,34,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,30,500,1,0,32 ,0,1,500,31,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,32,500,1,0,31,0,1,5 00,34,500,1,0,33,0,1,500,34,500,1,0,33,0,1,500,35, 500,1,0,34,0,1,500,34,500,1,0,36,0,1,500,33,500,1, 0,38,0,1,500,33,500,1,0,36,0,1,500,33,x)%>
<%(17,51,0,1,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500, 1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10, 0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500 ,13,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,13,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500, 1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9, 0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 069 |VR: 209 |IL: 085 |IR: 083 |DCL1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 065 |VR: 210 |IL: 081 |IR: 075 |DCL: 50:50 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.59V
<%(16,51,0,1,0,1,500,35,500,1,0,36,0,1,500,33,500, 1,0,36,0,1,500,32,500,1,0,35,0,1,500,32,500,1,0,35 ,0,1,500,31,500,1,0,33,0,1,500,36,500,1,0,30,0,1,5 00,34,500,1,0,30,0,1,500,31,500,1,0,30,0,1,500,32, 500,1,0,32,0,1,500,30,500,1,0,36,0,1,500,29,500,1, 0,33,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,30,x)%>
<%(17,51,0,1,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1 ,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0, 1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11 ,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0 ,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1, 500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 068 |VR: 217 |IL: 081 |IR: 075 |DCL: 49:50 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.59V
<%(16,51,0,1,0,1,500,34,500,1,0,33,0,1,500,34,500, 1,0,34,0,1,500,37,500,1,0,35,0,1,500,36,500,1,0,35 ,0,1,500,33,500,1,0,36,0,1,500,33,500,1,0,36,0,1,5 00,34,500,1,0,35,0,1,500,33,500,1,0,33,0,1,500,36, 500,1,0,30,0,1,500,35,500,1,0,30,0,1,500,33,500,1, 0,32,0,1,500,33,500,1,0,34,0,1,500,30,x)%>
<%(17,51,0,1,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1 ,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0 ,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,1 1,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1 ,0,10,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0, 1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 067 |VR: 215 |IL: 081 |IR: 075 |DCL: 50:50 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.59V
<%(16,51,0,1,0,1,500,30,500,1,0,35,0,1,500,31,500, 1,0,35,0,1,500,33,500,1,0,34,0,1,500,34,500,1,0,34 ,0,1,500,34,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,37,500,1,0,35,0,1,5 00,37,500,1,0,35,0,1,500,37,500,1,0,36,0,1,500,35, 500,1,0,36,0,1,500,35,500,1,0,38,0,1,500,35,500,1, 0,38,0,1,500,33,500,1,0,36,0,1,500,31,x)%>
<%(17,51,0,1,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500, 1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0 ,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500, 11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500 ,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10, 0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 065 |VR: 207 |IL: 081 |IR: 075 |DCL: 48:51 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.58V
<%(16,51,0,1,0,1,500,36,500,1,0,30,0,1,500,33,500, 1,0,31,0,1,500,32,500,1,0,33,0,1,500,30,500,1,0,36 ,0,1,500,31,500,1,0,35,0,1,500,29,500,1,0,33,0,1,5 00,31,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,34,500,1,0,34,0,1,500,34, 500,1,0,33,0,1,500,36,500,1,0,34,0,1,500,35,500,1, 0,34,0,1,500,35,500,1,0,35,0,1,500,36,x)%>
<%(17,51,0,1,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1 ,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1 ,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11, 500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0 ,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,5 00,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 066 |VR: 212 |IL: 085 |IR: 075 |DCL: 49:50 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.58V
<%(16,51,0,1,0,1,500,33,500,1,0,37,0,1,500,34,500, 1,0,36,0,1,500,34,500,1,0,34,0,1,500,37,500,1,0,31 ,0,1,500,35,500,1,0,31,0,1,500,33,500,1,0,32,0,1,5 00,34,500,1,0,35,0,1,500,32,500,1,0,36,0,1,500,31, 500,1,0,34,0,1,500,30,500,1,0,34,0,1,500,32,500,1, 0,34,0,1,500,35,500,1,0,35,0,1,500,34,x)%>
<%(17,51,0,1,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,11,500, 1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,8,0, 1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12 ,500,1,0,8,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0 ,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1, 500,11,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,11,x)%>
P: 100 |VL: 065 |VR: 217 |IL: 085 |IR: 090 |DCL: 49:50 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.58V
<%(16,51,0,1,0,1,500,37,500,1,0,35,0,1,500,37,500, 1,0,36,0,1,500,38,500,1,0,37,0,1,5

# bwd

Change direction: BWD

# 50

--> Change speed to:50
<%(16,51,0,1,0,1,500,35,500,1,0,36,0,1,500,37,500, 1,0,34,0,1,500,38,500,1,0,37,0,1,500,37,500,1,0,37 ,0,1,500,38,500,1,0,38,0,1,500,38,500,1,0,40,0,1,5 00,36,500,1,0,40,0,1,500,36,500,1,0,39,0,1,500,35, 500,1,0,38,0,1,500,36,500,1,0,36,0,1,500,40,500,1, 0,32,0,1,500,37,500,1,0,32,0,1,500,34,x)%>
<%(17,51,0,1,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1 ,0,10,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0 ,1,500,11,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500, 12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500, 1,0,9,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,10,0,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0 ,1,500,12,500,1,0,9,0,1,500,12,x)%>
P: 050 |VL: 000 |VR: 000 |IL: 008 |IR: 692 |DCL: 50:49 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.15V
SPEED LEFT IS TOO LOW!!!!
SPEED RIGHT IS TOO LOW!!!!
P: 050 |VL: 000 |VR: 000 |IL: 024 |IR: 690 |DCL: 50:49 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.15V
SPEED LEFT IS TOO LOW!!!!
SPEED RIGHT IS TOO LOW!!!!

# 0
# fwd
#

aber jetzt ist schon wieder die sicherung rausgeflogen ich habe schon vorher alles modifizierte abgebaut
was soll ich jetzt machen?

**SlyD** · 14.12.2012, 19:10

Erstmal bitte [ CODE ] Tags im Forum nutzen sonst ist das extrem unübersichtlich (Du kannst Beiträge nachträglich editieren btw.).
Dann siehe:
http://www.arexx.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1946
Wird nächste Woche neu hochgeladen aber bis dahin bitte noch die vorherige Version der Beispielprogramme verwenden
oder eben kurz die eine Zeile da ändern und neu compilieren damit der richtige Testmodus aktiv ist.

Und kann es sein das Du eine ganz ganz alte Version des RobotLoaders verwendest?
Aktuell gibt es schon 2.4a: https://www.roboternetz.de/community...botLoader-2-4a

Die <%(16,51 ... Ausgaben sollten im Terminal nicht angezeigt werden die sind nur für die Display ansicht für die Drehgeber.

Wie auch immer, aus dem Zeichensalat konnte ich immerhin schonmal folgendes erkennen:
UB: 05.71V

Was für Akkus verwendest Du und sind die voll geladen (sicher nicht, sehen ziemlich leer aus)?
Die müssen voll geladen sein sonst wird der Test nicht klappen.

Du solltest es wie auch gesagt OHNE den angeschlossenen Motor testen.
Das ist wichtig um zu sehen wie die Stromaufnahme ohne den Motor ist.

MfG,
SlyD

**Marian Otte** · 14.12.2012, 19:15

jetzt geht es eh nicht mehr die sich sicherung fliegt ja immer raus ich habe den roboter erst seit 2 Wochen. Ich schicke den jetzt glaube ich zurück nach Conrad.
Oder gibt es noch eine andere möglichkeit.
Die sicherung ist nach dem Selftest rausgeflogen.

**SlyD** · 14.12.2012, 20:55

Oder gibt es noch eine andere möglichkeit.

Klar, wie ich schon schrieb, den Stecker des betroffenen Motors erstmal vom Mainboard abziehen!
Solltest Du ja eigentlich wie oben gesagt sowieso tun bevor Du den Test laufen lässt...
(zieh nun bitte beide ab)

Vermutlich(!) sind Q1 und Q2 beschädigt - kann aber auch die Treiberstufe
davor sein das ist nicht sicher.
Da bräuchte man Messgeräte (mind. Multimeter, ggf. Oszi) um das genauer zu prüfen.

Die sicherung ist nach dem Selftest rausgeflogen.

Also in der letzten Zeile

P: 050 |VL: 000 |VR: 000 |IL: 024 |IR: 690 |DCL: 50:49 |DCR: 55:45 |UB: 05.15V

war der Strom des rechten Motors auch schon bedenklich hoch und die
Akkuspannung gleichzeitig extrem gering, knapp bei 5V - normal sind 6.5 - 8.5V.
Akkus leer = ganz schlecht für so einen Test.

Unabhängig davon, irgendwas ist da wohl bei basteleien beschädigt worden.
Auf jeden Fall muss immer mit großer Sorgfalt vorgegangen werden - siehe Sicherheitshinweise in der Anleitung!
Das ist offene Elektronik ohne Gehäuse, da kommt man überall dran und kann dementsprechend auch was beschädigen
wenn man nicht aufpasst.
Duch elektrostatische Entladungen reicht es mit den Fingern Kontakte von Bauteilen zu berühren.
Generell sollte man niemals auf offenen Elektronikplatinen rumtatschen ohne sich vorher zu entladen!

Wenn Du es an Conrad schickst wird es wohl erstmal an AREXX zur Prüfung weitergeleitet werden.
Umgetauscht wird nur bei offensichtlichen Produktionsfehlern - ist hier aber nicht der Fall.
In aller Regel wirds dann repariert oder umgetauscht, aber das kommt auch drauf an in welchem Zustand
es zurück kommt.

MfG,
SlyD

**Marian Otte** · 14.12.2012, 21:10

ich habe ein multimeter was soll ich jetzt wie messen q1 und q2 sind fets oder)
ich habe das Voltkraft 270.

Danke
Marian Otte

**SlyD** · 17.12.2012, 13:28

Hallo,

ein ganz grober Test:
Versorgung ausschalten und DIE MOTOREN VOM MAINBOARD ABTRENNEN!
Dann zwischen folgenden Punkten messen (Messbereich auf 100k bzw. 200k Widerstand):
- MR+ gegen MR-
- MR+ gegen GND
- MR- gegen GND
- MR+ gegen +UB (nicht VDD!)
- MR- gegen +UB

Das gleiche mit Links machen und vergleichen.
Ergebnisse hier posten.

Aber es kann auch sein dass die Treiberschaltung irgendwie beschädigt wurde.
Das wäre dann IC4 und T2 und die ganzen Widerstände rundherum.
(siehe RP6 Schaltplan)
Das ist aber nicht ganz so einfach zu erklären was da wo gemessen werden müsste...
Wenn es daran liegt bleibt eigentlich nur einschicken.

MfG,
SlyD