ATtiny25/45/85 mit PonyProg?

[Schokohoernl]

Hallo!

Es gibt ja seit kurzem die ATtiny25/45/85, die auch bald bei Reichelt zu bekommen sein werden.
Nun ist aber das Problem, dass PonyProg die guten Stücke nicht kennt. Kommt bald irgendwann ne Version raus, die auch diese ATtiny's kennt (so wie beim ATtiny13) oder ist a bisher nichts in sicht?
Und was für Alternativen gibts? Welches Proggi kann die ATtiny25/45/85 flashen? Ich benutze halt einen selbstgebauten Programmieradapter via LPT.

MfG

Schoko

P.S.: Weiss jemand wwarum bei Bascom die ATtiny25 und 45 verhanden sind, aber der 85 nicht?

[SprinterSB]

Die Selbstbauadapter beherrscht avrdude (aber auch BASCOM, STK, bsd, USBasp, ...).

Falls deine Portbelegung auch Eigenbau ist, schau einfach mal in das avrdude.conf, wie sowas aussieht, zB

Programmer
  id = "dapa";
  desc = "Direct AVR Parallel Access cable";
  type = par;
  vcc   = 3;
  reset = 16;
  sck = 1;
  mosi = 2;
  miso = 11;
;

Geht jedenfalls schneller, als auf Pony zu warten...

Den ATtiny25 gebt's übrigens schon beim R.

[Schokohoernl]

Und avrdude kann die drei Tinys mit allem drum und dran (also auch Fuse-Bits) proggen?

MfG

Schoko

[SprinterSB]

Ich progge den ATtiny25, und es gibt kein Grund, warum die 45/85 nicht gehen sollten. Sind ja alle (fast) gleich.

avrdude-5.3.1.exe
avrdude.conf

Valid programmers are:
dasa3 = serial port banging, reset=!dtr sck=rts mosi=txd miso=cts [avrdude.conf:757]
dasa = serial port banging, reset=rts sck=dtr mosi=txd miso=cts [avrdude.conf:744]
siprog = Lancos SI-Prog <http://www.lancos.com/siprogsch.html> [avrdude.conf:731]
ponyser = design ponyprog serial, reset=!txd sck=rts mosi=dtr miso=cts [avrdude.conf:718]
frank-stk200 = Frank STK200 [avrdude.conf:683]
blaster = Altera ByteBlaster [avrdude.conf:670]
ere-isp-avr = ERE ISP-AVR <http://www.ere.co.th/download/sch050713.pdf> [avrdude.conf:660]
atisp = AT-ISP V1.1 programming cable for AVR-SDK1 from <http://micro-research.co.th/> [avrdude.conf:650]
dapa = Direct AVR Parallel Access cable [avrdude.conf:639]
xil = Xilinx JTAG cable [avrdude.conf:626]
futurlec = Futurlec.com programming cable. [avrdude.conf:609]
abcmini = ABCmini Board, aka Dick Smith HOTCHIP [avrdude.conf:599]
picoweb = Picoweb Programming Cable, http://www.picoweb.net/ [avrdude.conf:589]
sp12 = Steve Bolt's Programmer [avrdude.conf:578]
alf = Nightshade ALF-PgmAVR, http://nightshade.homeip.net/ [avrdude.conf:562]
Bascom = Bascom SAMPLE programming cable [avrdude.conf:552]
dt006 = Dontronics DT006 [avrdude.conf:542]
pony-stk200 = Pony Prog STK200 [avrdude.conf:530]
stk200 = STK200 [avrdude.conf:514]
bsd = Brian Dean's Programmer, http://www.bsdhome.com/avrdude/ [avrdude.conf:503]
pavr = Jason Kyle's pAVR Serial Programmer [avrdude.conf:495]
dragon_dw = Atmel AVR Dragon in debugWire mode [avrdude.conf:488]
dragon_hvsp = Atmel AVR Dragon in HVSP mode [avrdude.conf:480]
dragon_pp = Atmel AVR Dragon in PP mode [avrdude.conf:472]
dragon_isp = Atmel AVR Dragon in ISP mode [avrdude.conf:464]
dragon_jtag = Atmel AVR Dragon in JTAG mode [avrdude.conf:456]
jtag2dw = Atmel JTAG ICE mkII in debugWire mode [avrdude.conf:448]
jtag2isp = Atmel JTAG ICE mkII in ISP mode [avrdude.conf:440]
jtag2 = Atmel JTAG ICE mkII [avrdude.conf:432]
jtag2fast = Atmel JTAG ICE mkII [avrdude.conf:424]
jtag2slow = Atmel JTAG ICE mkII [avrdude.conf:416]
jtagmkII = Atmel JTAG ICE mkII [avrdude.conf:408]
jtag1slow = Atmel JTAG ICE (mkI) [avrdude.conf:401]
jtag1 = Atmel JTAG ICE (mkI) [avrdude.conf:393]
jtagmkI = Atmel JTAG ICE (mkI) [avrdude.conf:385]
AVR911 = Atmel AppNote AVR911 AVROSP [avrdude.conf:379]
AVR109 = Atmel AppNote AVR109 Boot Loader [avrdude.conf:373]
butterfly = Atmel Butterfly Development Board [avrdude.conf:367]
usbasp = USBasp, http://www.fischl.de/usbasp/ [avrdude.conf:361]
AVR910 = Atmel Low Cost Serial Programmer [avrdude.conf:355]
stk500hvsp = Atmel STK500 V2 in high-voltage serial programming mode [avrdude.conf:349]
stk500pp = Atmel STK500 V2 in parallel programming mode [avrdude.conf:343]
stk500v2 = Atmel STK500 Version 2.x firmware [avrdude.conf:337]
stk500v1 = Atmel STK500 Version 1.x firmware [avrdude.conf:331]
stk500 = Atmel STK500 [avrdude.conf:325]
avrisp2 = Atmel AVR ISP mkII [avrdude.conf:315]
avrispmkII = Atmel AVR ISP mkII [avrdude.conf:309]
avrispv2 = Atmel AVR ISP V2 [avrdude.conf:303]
avrisp = Atmel AVR ISP [avrdude.conf:297]

Valid parts are:
m6450 = ATMEGA6450 [avrdude.conf:10968]
m3250 = ATMEGA3250 [avrdude.conf:10779]
m645 = ATMEGA645 [avrdude.conf:10590]
m325 = ATMEGA325 [avrdude.conf:10401]
USB1287 = AT90USB1287 [avrdude.conf:10213]
USB1286 = AT90USB1286 [avrdude.conf:10024]
USB647 = AT90USB647 [avrdude.conf:9835]
USB646 = AT90USB646 [avrdude.conf:9645]
t84 = ATtiny84 [avrdude.conf:9462]
t44 = ATtiny44 [avrdude.conf:9280]
t24 = ATtiny24 [avrdude.conf:9098]
m2561 = ATMEGA2561 [avrdude.conf:8905]
m2560 = ATMEGA2560 [avrdude.conf:8712]
m1281 = ATMEGA1281 [avrdude.conf:8524]
m1280 = ATMEGA1280 [avrdude.conf:8335]
m640 = ATMEGA640 [avrdude.conf:8147]
t85 = ATtiny85 [avrdude.conf:7966]
t45 = ATtiny45 [avrdude.conf:7787]
t25 = ATtiny25 [avrdude.conf:7607]
pwm3 = AT90PWM3 [avrdude.conf:7425]
pwm2 = AT90PWM2 [avrdude.conf:7241]
t2313 = ATtiny2313 [avrdude.conf:7054]
m168 = ATMEGA168 [avrdude.conf:6866]
m88 = ATMEGA88 [avrdude.conf:6680]
m48 = ATMEGA48 [avrdude.conf:6493]
t861 = ATTINY861 [avrdude.conf:6305]
t461 = ATTINY461 [avrdude.conf:6116]
t261 = ATTINY261 [avrdude.conf:5927]
t26 = ATTINY26 [avrdude.conf:5770]
m8535 = ATMEGA8535 [avrdude.conf:5612]
m8515 = ATMEGA8515 [avrdude.conf:5454]
m8 = ATMEGA8 [avrdude.conf:5294]
m161 = ATMEGA161 [avrdude.conf:5154]
m32 = ATMEGA32 [avrdude.conf:4979]
m6490 = ATMEGA6490 [avrdude.conf:4786]
m649 = ATMEGA649 [avrdude.conf:4601]
m3290 = ATMEGA3290 [avrdude.conf:4418]
m329 = ATMEGA329 [avrdude.conf:4233]
m169 = ATMEGA169 [avrdude.conf:4053]
m163 = ATMEGA163 [avrdude.conf:3910]
m162 = ATMEGA162 [avrdude.conf:3714]
m644 = ATMEGA644 [avrdude.conf:3524]
m324 = ATMEGA324 [avrdude.conf:3332]
m164 = ATMEGA164 [avrdude.conf:3140]
m16 = ATMEGA16 [avrdude.conf:2962]
c128 = AT90CAN128 [avrdude.conf:2771]
m128 = ATMEGA128 [avrdude.conf:2593]
m64 = ATMEGA64 [avrdude.conf:2412]
m103 = ATMEGA103 [avrdude.conf:2272]
8535 = AT90S8535 [avrdude.conf:2151]
8515 = AT90S8515 [avrdude.conf:2037]
4434 = AT90S4434 [avrdude.conf:1954]
4433 = AT90S4433 [avrdude.conf:1830]
2343 = AT90S2343 [avrdude.conf:1706]
2333 = AT90S2333 [avrdude.conf:1621]
2313 = AT90S2313 [avrdude.conf:1508]
4414 = AT90S4414 [avrdude.conf:1395]
1200 = AT90S1200 [avrdude.conf:1280]
t15 = ATtiny15 [avrdude.conf:1147]
t13 = ATtiny13 [avrdude.conf:974]
t12 = ATtiny12 [avrdude.conf:841]
t11 = ATtiny11 [avrdude.conf:777]